i like what mitch mcconnell has said. i like the part about the president and him coming to agreement on some parts there. but you know, the president is a good speaker and always has been. but when it comes to listening to the speech, i could quote you the rest of the line. ram things down the throats, that will never happen. you know, they took the elite few and went behind closed doors and click -- crammed down the health care bill. i do not know what the deficit was when the president came into office, but we know that it keeps climbing higher and higher and we definitely need to get -- i run my household this way. if i cannot afford something, i cannot put the money into it. >> thank you for the call. four years ago the debt was about $12 trillion. as of today, we are close to $16.40 trillion. you can get that from the u.s. debt clock. we have a web site at c- span.org, about the fiscal cliff, leading up to this december 31 deadline, you can check it out anytime on our website. you can also weigh in on our facebook p